Comments - Latest Popular Stories, Instablogs Community by Balam http://balam.instablogs.com/ Comments - Latest Popular Stories powered by Instablogs Community. http://www.instablogs.com/site-img/insta-slogo.gif Instablogs Community http://balam.instablogs.com/ en-us Instascript 2.0 http://www.instablogs.com Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:58:56 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam You may have a different opinion.

]]> Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Grace Calderon http://gracieb.instablogs.com http://gracieb.instablogs.com Grace Calderon
Ramadan is coming up, and here in the Philippines, we honor our Muslim community by declaring the end of Ramadan as an official public holiday.

If Hajj is/used to be a Hindu pilgrimage, they must have known it by another name. My understanding is that Hajj is an Islamic term.]]> Very interesting, Ramesh. I learn something new everyday! Please oblige us with some links. :)



Ramadan is coming up, and here in the Philippines, we honor our Muslim community by declaring the end of Ramadan as an official public holiday.



If Hajj is/used to be a Hindu pilgrimage, they must have known it by another name. My understanding is that Hajj is an Islamic term.

]]> Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajj

I intend to write a separate article on the pre islamic days of Mecca and the real story of the black stone Kaaba. I also intend to quote million year old Hindu scriptures to prove abojut the existance of Allah (God) before Christianity and Islam.]]> Hajj means ”setting out for a journey”. Mecca is a Sanskrit word ”Mekh” meaning a place where Yajna (rituals) are done. Medina was named from the word ”Medini”. The following information is useful here :-



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajj



I intend to write a separate article on the pre islamic days of Mecca and the real story of the black stone Kaaba. I also intend to quote million year old Hindu scriptures to prove abojut the existance of Allah (God) before Christianity and Islam.

]]> Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Vijay http://vspaliwalkt.instablogs.com http://vspaliwalkt.instablogs.com Vijay Ramadan,Ramallah...i dont know history about these names but both starts with the name of RAM.

]]> Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam There is a link, a Hindu link.

]]> Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Sumera http://subil.instablogs.com http://subil.instablogs.com Sumera
Since
’Hajj is a Hindu pilgrimage [that]
Prophet (PBUH) could not ”stop” during his life time and ”had” to ”incorporate” as a pillar of Islam’

with due respect Let me clarify a few things for general information.

First of all you should know with your research that Islam is not the only religion sent to earth.

History was never devoid of guidance from God. Wherever there was man there was guidance. There were always massagers being sent to earth who extended Gods messages to its people. The messages were always of, unity, love, peace, and a strong belief in GOD.

Before Islam people only had a concept of a ’higher power’, and they sought after it in various forms and worshipping natural elements, suns, moons, stars, animals, water,fire,earth,air etc or man made demigods which they thought identified with a real god, etc

Islam was the LAST of all religions sent on earth. Before Islam there were many prophets sent on earth in Muslim history the number is 124000 of them were sent as guidance on earth and 4 holy books are mentioned in Quran which testify as the guidance sent to the ALLAH’s people on earth.

These four messengers and their holy books as acknowledged by Quran.
They are the Suhuf-i-Ibrahim (commonly the Scrolls of Abraham), the (Tawrat (Torah),the Zabur (commonly the Psalms), the Injil (commonly the Gospel), and the Qur’an.

Hence, it was the FINAL ENLIGHTMENT, the word of ONE GOD. The Quran.
Muslims believe and pray to one only God, who sent his message to the prophet and discarded all the beliefs by manifesting

In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Say: He is Allah, the One and Only!
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
He begetteth not nor is He begotten. (born out of, or with)
And there is none like unto Him.

Which clarified his intentions of putting an end to all the other practices prevailing in ancient history, that is why we believe that Islam is the enlightment period in Arab before that was “Days of Ignorance”, please also know the time line of Origin of Religion
And Important Dates in History:

c. 2000 BC: Time of Abraham, the patriarch of Israel.
c. 1200 BC: Time of Moses, the Hebrew leader of the Exodus.
c. 1100 - 500 BC: Hindus compile their holy texts, the Vedas.
c. 563 - 483 BC: Time of Buddha, founder of Buddhism.
c. 551 - 479 BC: Time of Confucius, founder of Confucianism.
c. 200 BC: The Hindu book, Bhagavad Gita, is written.
c. 2 to 4 BC - 32 AD: Time of Jesus Christ, the Messiah and founder of Christianity.
c. 32 AD: The Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
c. 40 - 90 AD: The New Testament is written by the followers of Jesus Christ.
c. 570 - 632 AD: Time of Muhammad, who records the Qur’an as the basis of Islam.


Hence, the history of pilgrimage did not start with Islam, nor with Hinduism. People before Islam or Hinduism also made pilgrimages to their holy places insearch of GOD.]]> Your article though is well researched. and I enjoyed it until I reached your final ”conclusion” that



Since

’Hajj is a Hindu pilgrimage [that]

Prophet (PBUH) could not ”stop” during his life time and ”had” to ”incorporate” as a pillar of Islam’



with due respect Let me clarify a few things for general information.



First of all you should know with your research that Islam is not the only religion sent to earth.



History was never devoid of guidance from God. Wherever there was man there was guidance. There were always massagers being sent to earth who extended Gods messages to its people. The messages were always of, unity, love, peace, and a strong belief in GOD.



Before Islam people only had a concept of a ’higher power’, and they sought after it in various forms and worshipping natural elements, suns, moons, stars, animals, water,fire,earth,air etc or man made demigods which they thought identified with a real god, etc



Islam was the LAST of all religions sent on earth. Before Islam there were many prophets sent on earth in Muslim history the number is 124000 of them were sent as guidance on earth and 4 holy books are mentioned in Quran which testify as the guidance sent to the ALLAH’s people on earth.



These four messengers and their holy books as acknowledged by Quran.

They are the Suhuf-i-Ibrahim (commonly the Scrolls of Abraham), the (Tawrat (Torah),the Zabur (commonly the Psalms), the Injil (commonly the Gospel), and the Qur’an.



Hence, it was the FINAL ENLIGHTMENT, the word of ONE GOD. The Quran.

Muslims believe and pray to one only God, who sent his message to the prophet and discarded all the beliefs by manifesting



In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful



Say: He is Allah, the One and Only!

Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;

He begetteth not nor is He begotten. (born out of, or with)

And there is none like unto Him.



Which clarified his intentions of putting an end to all the other practices prevailing in ancient history, that is why we believe that Islam is the enlightment period in Arab before that was “Days of Ignorance”, please also know the time line of Origin of Religion

And Important Dates in History:



c. 2000 BC: Time of Abraham, the patriarch of Israel.

c. 1200 BC: Time of Moses, the Hebrew leader of the Exodus.

c. 1100 - 500 BC: Hindus compile their holy texts, the Vedas.

c. 563 - 483 BC: Time of Buddha, founder of Buddhism.

c. 551 - 479 BC: Time of Confucius, founder of Confucianism.

c. 200 BC: The Hindu book, Bhagavad Gita, is written.

c. 2 to 4 BC - 32 AD: Time of Jesus Christ, the Messiah and founder of Christianity.

c. 32 AD: The Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus Christ.

c. 40 - 90 AD: The New Testament is written by the followers of Jesus Christ.

c. 570 - 632 AD: Time of Muhammad, who records the Qur’an as the basis of Islam.





Hence, the history of pilgrimage did not start with Islam, nor with Hinduism. People before Islam or Hinduism also made pilgrimages to their holy places insearch of GOD.

]]> Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam
You say that prophets number 124000. Can any one name them?

I must thank you for the rest of the information given by you.]]> You say that Islam is the last religion. But, Sikhism is only 400 years old. What do you say on that? You deny the existance of Sikhism?



You say that prophets number 124000. Can any one name them?



I must thank you for the rest of the information given by you.

]]> Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam Hindu civilisation and culture is only 1,97,29,49,109 years old. Please make necessary amendments in your dates accordingly.

]]> Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Souransu http://souransu1.instablogs.com http://souransu1.instablogs.com Souransu Hindu civilisation and culture is only 1,97,29,49,109 years old. Please make necessary amendments in your dates accordingly.. The earth itself is about 4 billion years old and you are talking about man walking the earth almost 2 billion years back? According to you, not only they walked 2 on the planet two billion years back, but also had a full fledged civilisation and a religion! Maybe you are insinuating dinosaurs herds as early Hindu civilisation.]]> I am surprised that in their over enthusiasm, the Hindus tend to shoot at their own feet and make complete jokers of themselves.
Hindu civilisation and culture is only 1,97,29,49,109 years old. Please make necessary amendments in your dates accordingly.
. The earth itself is about 4 billion years old and you are talking about man walking the earth almost 2 billion years back? According to you, not only they walked 2 on the planet two billion years back, but also had a full fledged civilisation and a religion! Maybe you are insinuating dinosaurs herds as early Hindu civilisation.

]]> Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam You may be surprised. Hindu scriptures say so. One of these days, I may write about that.

]]> Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Souransu http://souransu1.instablogs.com http://souransu1.instablogs.com Souransu I don’t know which Hindu scriptures say so, but how can we believe that? Mythology is not really history and facts must be corroborated by evidence and scientific backup. Making a reference to just scriptures is not very clever.

]]> Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam
http://www.indiaheritage.org/rendez/article1.htm]]> Your lack of knowledge doesn’t mean that information is not available. Check the link please :-



http://www.indiaheritage.org/rendez/article1.htm

]]> Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Sumera http://subil.instablogs.com http://subil.instablogs.com Sumera
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Holy_Books

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_other_religions

http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html


http://www.twf.org/Library/Meta-religion.html

http://www.thewaytotruth.org/islam-humanity/spiritualeducation.html]]> some very interesting references on comonality of all religions, its a pity that we all the differences only.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Holy_Books



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_other_religions



http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html





http://www.twf.org/Library/Meta-religion.html



http://www.thewaytotruth.org/islam-humanity/spiritualeducation.html

]]> Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam Very educative and informative links. Thanks dear.

]]> Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam The path leading to Holy Kaaba had shops selling items of worship. Poets used to congregate and recite their poetry. The best of poets were honoured every year and their names were written on golden scroll. There were continuous singing and dancing by devotees on the beat of musical drums, whistles and clappings. Shops were destroyed and reciting of poetry was stopped. Singing was banned and entry of Non Muslims was prohibited by the Prophet. He implemented it ruthlessly. Piligims did not stop. They came in hordes, did the parkrama (circular round) of Holy Kaaba and prayed. It gave them serenity and was an experience of lifetime.

]]> Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Mohammadali http://sherkat-mohammadali.instablogs.com http://sherkat-mohammadali.instablogs.com Mohammadali This is a blasphemous article against our Holy Prophet Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Him) and Allah. Ramesh Balam has manipulated historical practices to suggest that Islamic practices were inspired by Hinduism. There is no such evidence.

]]> Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam
With all due respect to the Prophet and the communities, no malice or disrespect is intended.

I have not suggested that the practices are inspired by Hinduism. I said, they were existing. If any new practice, custom or ritual has been introduced by the prophet, please say so.]]> Every word that I have written here has already been published. Historical facts exist. Only the narration is mine.



With all due respect to the Prophet and the communities, no malice or disrespect is intended.



I have not suggested that the practices are inspired by Hinduism. I said, they were existing. If any new practice, custom or ritual has been introduced by the prophet, please say so.

]]> Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Darshan Raval http://raval90.instablogs.com http://raval90.instablogs.com Darshan Raval ther is no evidence of probhet

]]> Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam What evidence do you need Darshan ji?

]]> Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Nileisha http://nileisha1.instablogs.com http://nileisha1.instablogs.com Nileisha
The Aryans are not indigenous to India. Aryans were plunderers who came from the Caspian region.

Hinduism as we see today is a relatively new religion than most of the Hindus would like to believe. It may be as young as just 2750-3000 years.]]> Hinduism itself has developed into a religion by incorporating Aryan, Dravidan and local tribal (pagan) religious practices in the Indian subcontinent.



The Aryans are not indigenous to India. Aryans were plunderers who came from the Caspian region.



Hinduism as we see today is a relatively new religion than most of the Hindus would like to believe. It may be as young as just 2750-3000 years.

]]> Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam I agree that Hinduism is all absorbing religion. Certain practices that we associate with Hinduism today may have developed recently.

]]> Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Darshan Raval http://raval90.instablogs.com http://raval90.instablogs.com Darshan Raval aryan are not plunderers from caspian region but himalyn welly or sindhu ghati is ther native

]]> Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam You are right, Darshanji. Thanx for the visit.

]]> Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Sumera http://subil.instablogs.com http://subil.instablogs.com Sumera
The origins of Sikhism lie in the teachings of Nanak and his successors. Nanak disapproved of many religious beliefs and practices of his time.

The essence of Sikh teaching is summed up by Nanak in these words:
”Realisation of Truth is higher than all else. Higher still is truthful living”.

Sikhism believes in equality of all humans and rejects caste system.

does not attach any importance to asceticism as a means to attain salvation, but stresses on the need of leading life as a householder.

part 2 of your question:

out of 124000 the quran recognizes only 24 of them. this is also a miracle, and a trait distintive of quran as other holy book dont mention other religions with their teaching.

however the quran recognizes only 24 of them as the rest of the prophets came either for smaller communities or merged themselves later with the larger religions identities.

those mentioned in qur’an.

01. Adam 13. Shu’aib
02. Sheeth 14. Ayyub(Job)
03. Idris(Enoch) 15. Musa(Moses)
04. Nuh(Noah) 16. Harun(Aaron)
05. Hood 17. Dhul-Kifl(Ezekiel)
06. Saleh 18. Dawud(David)
07. Ibrahim(Abraham) 19. Sulaiman(Solomon)
08. Ismail(Ishmael) 20. Elijah(Iliyas)
09. Is-haaq (Isaac) 21. Yunus(Jonah)
10. Lut (Lot) 22.Zakariyaa(Zechariah)
11. Yaqub(Jacob) 23. Yahya(John)
12. Yusuf(Joseph) 24. Isa(Jesus)




http://subil.instablogs.com/entry/appreciating-religious-differences/]]> Sikhism isn’t a religion by itself, it is a reaction to status quo and its practices are adopted, resulted by the disapproval of the many religious beliefs and practices of a time.



The origins of Sikhism lie in the teachings of Nanak and his successors. Nanak disapproved of many religious beliefs and practices of his time.



The essence of Sikh teaching is summed up by Nanak in these words:

”Realisation of Truth is higher than all else. Higher still is truthful living”.



Sikhism believes in equality of all humans and rejects caste system.



does not attach any importance to asceticism as a means to attain salvation, but stresses on the need of leading life as a householder.



part 2 of your question:



out of 124000 the quran recognizes only 24 of them. this is also a miracle, and a trait distintive of quran as other holy book dont mention other religions with their teaching.



however the quran recognizes only 24 of them as the rest of the prophets came either for smaller communities or merged themselves later with the larger religions identities.



those mentioned in qur’an.



01. Adam 13. Shu’aib

02. Sheeth 14. Ayyub(Job)

03. Idris(Enoch) 15. Musa(Moses)

04. Nuh(Noah) 16. Harun(Aaron)

05. Hood 17. Dhul-Kifl(Ezekiel)

06. Saleh 18. Dawud(David)

07. Ibrahim(Abraham) 19. Sulaiman(Solomon)

08. Ismail(Ishmael) 20. Elijah(Iliyas)

09. Is-haaq (Isaac) 21. Yunus(Jonah)

10. Lut (Lot) 22.Zakariyaa(Zechariah)

11. Yaqub(Jacob) 23. Yahya(John)

12. Yusuf(Joseph) 24. Isa(Jesus)









http://subil.instablogs.com/entry/appreciating-religious-differences/

]]> Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam I thank you once again. You are so helpful. I am learning from you.

]]> Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Sumera http://subil.instablogs.com http://subil.instablogs.com Sumera 14. Ayyub(Job)
15. Musa(Moses)
16. Harun(Aaron)
17. Dhul-Kifl(Ezekiel)
18. Dawud(David)
19. Sulaiman(Solomon)
20. Elijah(Iliyas)
21. Yunus(Jonah)
22.Zakariyaa(Zechariah)
23. Yahya(John)
24. Isa(Jesus)]]> 13. Shu’aib

14. Ayyub(Job)

15. Musa(Moses)

16. Harun(Aaron)

17. Dhul-Kifl(Ezekiel)

18. Dawud(David)

19. Sulaiman(Solomon)

20. Elijah(Iliyas)

21. Yunus(Jonah)

22.Zakariyaa(Zechariah)

23. Yahya(John)

24. Isa(Jesus)

]]> Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam Hindus consider Jainism, Budhism, Sikhism, atheist and other sects; an offshoot of Hindu religion. The sects and believers of the faith do not consider so. Ask any Sikh. Or just ask Dalai Lama of Tibet.

]]> Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Sunny Sunny http://tnsunny.instablogs.com http://tnsunny.instablogs.com Sunny Sunny
I am new here to this website and was reading every educated comments surprising what I feel is that most of us are so inclined towards religion well i am not an Atheist but what i know is ” I am not born with religion but imparted by our parents nor I die with religion”. Ramesh which religion has come first do u think it really matters. Sumera how many messenger came and went does it really matters or did we see any of them or do we see any one this century? what we need is peace in this world where hate is taking over. atleast we people should try and bridge the. I feel no one has seen god inspite of millions praying how come only few see it. I am not here trying to justify things but i am here to convey my feelings that no matter what we follow which religion we follow we still fight based on religion forgetting that we are same as human same organs and blood. if people keep religion to personal and see world without religion then i beleive peace would be there untill then i think there would fights based on wars and please remem most of the wars fought were based on religion]]> hi



I am new here to this website and was reading every educated comments surprising what I feel is that most of us are so inclined towards religion well i am not an Atheist but what i know is ” I am not born with religion but imparted by our parents nor I die with religion”. Ramesh which religion has come first do u think it really matters. Sumera how many messenger came and went does it really matters or did we see any of them or do we see any one this century? what we need is peace in this world where hate is taking over. atleast we people should try and bridge the. I feel no one has seen god inspite of millions praying how come only few see it. I am not here trying to justify things but i am here to convey my feelings that no matter what we follow which religion we follow we still fight based on religion forgetting that we are same as human same organs and blood. if people keep religion to personal and see world without religion then i beleive peace would be there untill then i think there would fights based on wars and please remem most of the wars fought were based on religion

]]> Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam
The problem in our life comes with Love, God and Conflict.

Resolving the conflict is individual perception]]> I generally agree with you.



The problem in our life comes with Love, God and Conflict.



Resolving the conflict is individual perception

]]> Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Hassan Rizvi http://saiye.instablogs.com http://saiye.instablogs.com Hassan Rizvi Muslim historians refer to the Arab period before Islam as as al-Jahiliyah because the poeople were idolatrious and believed that the stone gods they manufactured could help them in their needs;also because they were a superstitious and uncivilised lot who believed daughters were a curse and buried them in sand after birth.
Your article on Haj mearly shows that before Islam some idolatrous people had got hold of and influenced the ceremonies at Mecca.It does nothing to prove what infact were the original ceremonies .
More over your attempts at connecting the idolatrous and superstitious ways of The Arabs with Hinduism are not only laughable ,but also a disgrace to Hinduism itself.The theology and mythology of the two is not even remotely similar-the only common point being worship of idols.But even these differ for there was no Ganesh etc in the lot found and destroyed at Kaaba.
Unlike Hinduism which has the concept of Bhagwan-there was no concept of a supreme God amongst pre-islamic Arab idolators.
Hinduism even in it’s earliest forms has many Islamic points;and as understood by the thinking people is very distinct from Hinduism as understood by the masses-which itself is an indication to many Muslims that at sometime it too may have been Islam i.e. a message brought by one of the 124,000 prophets of God of whom we now know the names of 24.Till time tooks it tool,leading to what it is now.
The present Haj ceremonies are in fact a reversion to the earliest ones,and prophet Muhammad did this when he destroyed the idolatrious ones which had crept in inthe middle period.]]> Ramesh,

Muslim historians refer to the Arab period before Islam as as al-Jahiliyah because the poeople were idolatrious and believed that the stone gods they manufactured could help them in their needs;also because they were a superstitious and uncivilised lot who believed daughters were a curse and buried them in sand after birth.

Your article on Haj mearly shows that before Islam some idolatrous people had got hold of and influenced the ceremonies at Mecca.It does nothing to prove what infact were the original ceremonies .

More over your attempts at connecting the idolatrous and superstitious ways of The Arabs with Hinduism are not only laughable ,but also a disgrace to Hinduism itself.The theology and mythology of the two is not even remotely similar-the only common point being worship of idols.But even these differ for there was no Ganesh etc in the lot found and destroyed at Kaaba.

Unlike Hinduism which has the concept of Bhagwan-there was no concept of a supreme God amongst pre-islamic Arab idolators.

Hinduism even in it’s earliest forms has many Islamic points;and as understood by the thinking people is very distinct from Hinduism as understood by the masses-which itself is an indication to many Muslims that at sometime it too may have been Islam i.e. a message brought by one of the 124,000 prophets of God of whom we now know the names of 24.Till time tooks it tool,leading to what it is now.

The present Haj ceremonies are in fact a reversion to the earliest ones,and prophet Muhammad did this when he destroyed the idolatrious ones which had crept in inthe middle period.

]]> Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam Historians are supposed to research and report history as it existed and let the people judge. Muslim historians do the opposite.

]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam Please furnish the list of all the 360 idols, if held to enable us to confirm or refute your observation whether a particular god’s image existed or not. The main diety of the complex is Kaaba and was not Ganesh.

]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam Your comments that Hinduism in its earliest forms has many Islamic points simply means that whatever is in Islam today already existed in Hiduism at some point of time. Salient points still exists. Hassanbhai, you are too prejudiced to admit it.

]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Hassan Rizvi http://saiye.instablogs.com http://saiye.instablogs.com Hassan Rizvi Muslims were the first true historians and scientists in the cradle of Abrahamic faiths;and if they hadn’t been so impartial even greek thought and literature would have been lost to the world.
”What ever is in Hindu faith today form part of what is Islam” is such an obvious misstatement that I have no need to comment on it.Never the less Hinduism today does retain some portions of the original true faith as can be seen from so many things like mention of one supreme God,mention of Holy Prophet Muhammad and the superiority of cows meat over other form of meat in it’s holy books.
Islam has never claimed it is a new religion.The basic claim of Islam is that there is only one supreme creator.It follows from this that the religion he laid down or sent through his messengers in any age and to any people has always been -and logically must always -be the same.We all worship and must submit to the will of the same one God.Only over a period of time each people due to the greed or the dictates of their rulers deviated;and the message had to be given afresh calling the people back to that from which they had drifted.The Holy Prophet of islam was the last one -and will be the final one - to ask people to revert to the original true faith.

I will give you the history and details connected with Haj ritual -and the facts abouts the idols found their in - in a seperate article I intend writing sometime in the next week.
Not only was the main diety not Ganesh,there was no mention of any other Hindu diety at all in the entire history of Arab idolatory.
Ramesh bhai,I am sorry to state once again your article is good conjecture,but certainly no history.]]> Dear Balam,

Muslims were the first true historians and scientists in the cradle of Abrahamic faiths;and if they hadn’t been so impartial even greek thought and literature would have been lost to the world.

”What ever is in Hindu faith today form part of what is Islam” is such an obvious misstatement that I have no need to comment on it.Never the less Hinduism today does retain some portions of the original true faith as can be seen from so many things like mention of one supreme God,mention of Holy Prophet Muhammad and the superiority of cows meat over other form of meat in it’s holy books.

Islam has never claimed it is a new religion.The basic claim of Islam is that there is only one supreme creator.It follows from this that the religion he laid down or sent through his messengers in any age and to any people has always been -and logically must always -be the same.We all worship and must submit to the will of the same one God.Only over a period of time each people due to the greed or the dictates of their rulers deviated;and the message had to be given afresh calling the people back to that from which they had drifted.The Holy Prophet of islam was the last one -and will be the final one - to ask people to revert to the original true faith.



I will give you the history and details connected with Haj ritual -and the facts abouts the idols found their in - in a seperate article I intend writing sometime in the next week.

Not only was the main diety not Ganesh,there was no mention of any other Hindu diety at all in the entire history of Arab idolatory.

Ramesh bhai,I am sorry to state once again your article is good conjecture,but certainly no history.

]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam
I am not aware that Ganesh has to be the main deity in any temple. I have not mentioned Lord Ganesh in my article. It is your inference.

There is no concept of Hindu Gods or Christian Gods or this God or that God in Hinduism. Hinduism worships its creator in imageless and idol form. Hindus worship the unseen and seen, be it human, plants, sky, planets, animals, rivers or whatever. Hindus, I say once again, have no problem in worshipping Jesus Christ or Allah or both.

Prophet may be the last messanger for Muslims. He is not so for Christians and people of many other faiths. Hindus do not have the ”messanger concept” in Hindu religion and have not elevated the Prophet to the level of God. Hence his words are not FINAL for us. You may teach, spread or abide by your faith. Any effort to impose those views on us by force, terror or by such other means to disturb our lives is an affront which will be resisted by the whole non muslim world.

Your articles are well researched. I like it. I may or may not agree with your biased opinion or coloured vision but I still welcome it because you are a good writer. You write with sincerity, zeal and conviction. That is what I like in you.]]> I have not claimed that my article is history. That is a misnomer.



I am not aware that Ganesh has to be the main deity in any temple. I have not mentioned Lord Ganesh in my article. It is your inference.



There is no concept of Hindu Gods or Christian Gods or this God or that God in Hinduism. Hinduism worships its creator in imageless and idol form. Hindus worship the unseen and seen, be it human, plants, sky, planets, animals, rivers or whatever. Hindus, I say once again, have no problem in worshipping Jesus Christ or Allah or both.



Prophet may be the last messanger for Muslims. He is not so for Christians and people of many other faiths. Hindus do not have the ”messanger concept” in Hindu religion and have not elevated the Prophet to the level of God. Hence his words are not FINAL for us. You may teach, spread or abide by your faith. Any effort to impose those views on us by force, terror or by such other means to disturb our lives is an affront which will be resisted by the whole non muslim world.



Your articles are well researched. I like it. I may or may not agree with your biased opinion or coloured vision but I still welcome it because you are a good writer. You write with sincerity, zeal and conviction. That is what I like in you.

]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Rickie http://richie.instablogs.com http://richie.instablogs.com Rickie
The pagans(idol/fire worshippers) used to call the moon allah. One of the idols that used to be worshipped was teh black stone that is now in the wall of the kabba. That black stone was the idol for muhammads tribe (note muhammads uncle never converted to islam) even though that stone which, muhammad claims is the white stone from heaven ( turned black due to the sins of humans) was instilled in the middle of the kabba wall.

It is also to be noted that the pagans (muhammads own tribe) had banned muhammad from entering the kabba after he(muhammad) started his self claimed prophethood and was beaten badly to the point where he was physically hurt(with bloodly beatings) and was spat on by his own tribe. Then his tribe made a written (or before that) agreement which started off with the same line that muhammad stole from the pagans; the pagans started that agreement with the line ”in the name of allah the most gracious and merciful”. Which prooves the term allah is pre-muhammad and was used to mean ”the moon and stars”. Even today you will see most islamic flags have the moon and the star (chand and tara) which shows the evidence of allah being referred to as the moon and star pre-islamic tirbe culture which wasn’t let go and the star and the moon stuck with islam.

The pagans used to get to kabba and go around in circles singing dancing and rejoicing and they used to cut animals for food and rub their body parts on the kabba(this could be something to do with maha-parshad in early hindu era). It is also to be noted that these pagans used to go around in circles and do this rejoicing naked. There is a hadith that muhammad forbids that the rubbing of the animal blood will be done and thats why there is no animal killings to be done before a certain day in hajj and he also forbade the naked running around the kabba.

But the ritual of going around in circles from hinduism stuck and if it isn’t from hinduism please explain how christianity and jewdism and all the 124,000 prophets before that coudn’t tell the people to BOW in front of god but hindus have been doing the bow-ing in front of the essence of god (each human has essence of god and hence we bow to the essence of god in each of us, even if the person whom we bow to might have made wrong choices in their life).

There is no bowing in christianity and jewidism so obviously the bow-ing down in front of god is a practice that was copied from hinduism/pagans/idolaters.]]> Kabba was tehre even in the pre-islamic era. There were many idol worshippers who used to come to kabba and worship the gods. Even the term allah is actually a pre-islamic term. Allah comes from the terms ”al-illah” meaning the ”greatest” ”deity” to be worshipped.



The pagans(idol/fire worshippers) used to call the moon allah. One of the idols that used to be worshipped was teh black stone that is now in the wall of the kabba. That black stone was the idol for muhammads tribe (note muhammads uncle never converted to islam) even though that stone which, muhammad claims is the white stone from heaven ( turned black due to the sins of humans) was instilled in the middle of the kabba wall.



It is also to be noted that the pagans (muhammads own tribe) had banned muhammad from entering the kabba after he(muhammad) started his self claimed prophethood and was beaten badly to the point where he was physically hurt(with bloodly beatings) and was spat on by his own tribe. Then his tribe made a written (or before that) agreement which started off with the same line that muhammad stole from the pagans; the pagans started that agreement with the line ”in the name of allah the most gracious and merciful”. Which prooves the term allah is pre-muhammad and was used to mean ”the moon and stars”. Even today you will see most islamic flags have the moon and the star (chand and tara) which shows the evidence of allah being referred to as the moon and star pre-islamic tirbe culture which wasn’t let go and the star and the moon stuck with islam.



The pagans used to get to kabba and go around in circles singing dancing and rejoicing and they used to cut animals for food and rub their body parts on the kabba(this could be something to do with maha-parshad in early hindu era). It is also to be noted that these pagans used to go around in circles and do this rejoicing naked. There is a hadith that muhammad forbids that the rubbing of the animal blood will be done and thats why there is no animal killings to be done before a certain day in hajj and he also forbade the naked running around the kabba.



But the ritual of going around in circles from hinduism stuck and if it isn’t from hinduism please explain how christianity and jewdism and all the 124,000 prophets before that coudn’t tell the people to BOW in front of god but hindus have been doing the bow-ing in front of the essence of god (each human has essence of god and hence we bow to the essence of god in each of us, even if the person whom we bow to might have made wrong choices in their life).



There is no bowing in christianity and jewidism so obviously the bow-ing down in front of god is a practice that was copied from hinduism/pagans/idolaters.

]]> Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam
I have tried to find the existing signs to relate to the old custom.]]> Christianity does not believe in idol worship and the exiustance of idols point out to a culture whose signs were destoryed during the siege of Mecca.



I have tried to find the existing signs to relate to the old custom.

]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam I did not mention shaving off of the head in my article for obvious reasons.

]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam
The customary rituals of Hajj and its similarities with Hinduism have been explained in the article.]]> The narration is a statement of facts. You may view them as you please.



The customary rituals of Hajj and its similarities with Hinduism have been explained in the article.

]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Vijay http://vspaliwalkt.instablogs.com http://vspaliwalkt.instablogs.com Vijay A healthy discusion is going on and i must say that our Pakistani{Ex Hindustani,who still says ”Sare Jahan Se Achcha Hindustan Hamara...]brothers are also giving ’good’ remarks,without even being agitated.
They must accept that,only few are having different ”blood or Genes”,and their history is more ancient than the history of Islam,just like in the case of Egypt.]]> Dear Ramesh Balam,Yr comments”I intend to write a separate article on the pre islamic days of Mecca and the real story of the black stone Kaaba. I also intend to quote million year old Hindu scriptures to prove abojut the existance of Allah (God) before Christianity and Islam. ”

A healthy discusion is going on and i must say that our Pakistani{Ex Hindustani,who still says ”Sare Jahan Se Achcha Hindustan Hamara...]brothers are also giving ’good’ remarks,without even being agitated.

They must accept that,only few are having different ”blood or Genes”,and their history is more ancient than the history of Islam,just like in the case of Egypt.

]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam
Writing is an individual quest. Keeping a particular segment in mind for writing makes it a saleable commodity and then it becomes propaganda for publicity. In filmi circles that is called copy-writing.]]> I have lots of material on pre Islamic Mecca and Medina. Once your article is published we will exchange notes and enrich our knowledge by sharing the information.



Writing is an individual quest. Keeping a particular segment in mind for writing makes it a saleable commodity and then it becomes propaganda for publicity. In filmi circles that is called copy-writing.

]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Hassan Rizvi http://saiye.instablogs.com http://saiye.instablogs.com Hassan Rizvi
Allah always existed before anything;and I have read your Holy books and know thatHinduism is not unfamiliar with the true concept of a supreme diety.

No ones history is older then the history of Islam because Islam did not start with the Holy Prophet Muhammad ,it only ended with him in the sence that he is the last prophet of God who preached to people to revert to the original true concept of worshipping only the One supreme creator and nothing else-from which false priests had made them to drift for their own selfish motives.]]> Dear Vijay,



Allah always existed before anything;and I have read your Holy books and know thatHinduism is not unfamiliar with the true concept of a supreme diety.



No ones history is older then the history of Islam because Islam did not start with the Holy Prophet Muhammad ,it only ended with him in the sence that he is the last prophet of God who preached to people to revert to the original true concept of worshipping only the One supreme creator and nothing else-from which false priests had made them to drift for their own selfish motives.

]]> Sun, 05 Oct 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam The beauty of Hinduism is that it does not force you into believing anything. It allows you to reach your own conclusions because salvation is an an individual quest.

]]> Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Vijay http://vspaliwalkt.instablogs.com http://vspaliwalkt.instablogs.com Vijay Thanks a lot,we are learning from you Mr Balam and definietly wants to meet you.]]> We want a detailed article from yr side Mr Balam.You are doing plenty of work and research before posting a article.

Thanks a lot,we are learning from you Mr Balam and definietly wants to meet you.

]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam
It will be my pleasure too to meet you all.]]> I write on controversial subjects. I want to be absolutely certain that whatever I write can be verified by independent source and therefore write only on the basis of published material.



It will be my pleasure too to meet you all.

]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Reshmi http://reshamdatta.instablogs.com http://reshamdatta.instablogs.com Reshmi Sorry for reading this interesting and informative article a bit late, but this opened new facets regarding Haj which was completely unknown to me. Mr. Ramesh, your articles are really well researched and I sincerely thank you for informing us about so many new things.

]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam
The customs and the rituals of Hajj were there all the while for all to see. I have clarified the missing links and added my view point. That makes the article interesting.

I would request you to read my article on Taj Mahal in your spare time and comment.]]> I thank you for visiting my blog.



The customs and the rituals of Hajj were there all the while for all to see. I have clarified the missing links and added my view point. That makes the article interesting.



I would request you to read my article on Taj Mahal in your spare time and comment.

]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Vijay http://vspaliwalkt.instablogs.com http://vspaliwalkt.instablogs.com Vijay Ganapati Parva and Paryushan ki Shubhkamnayen.
I also wants to quote that some one objected on figure provided by you in yr’s about Hindu religion.
The first Tirthanker Adinath Era is too old,i dint know the figure but it is too old.There are ”Granth” at Kumbhoj Bahubali,near Solapur regd that.]]> Thanks MR RAMESH BALAM,

Ganapati Parva and Paryushan ki Shubhkamnayen.

I also wants to quote that some one objected on figure provided by you in yr’s about Hindu religion.

The first Tirthanker Adinath Era is too old,i dint know the figure but it is too old.There are ”Granth” at Kumbhoj Bahubali,near Solapur regd that.

]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam
Knowingly I did not reply to the silly comment about time measurement in Hinduism; which is the subject matter of my next article. For Muslim historians, ignorance is bliss.]]> Thanks for reminding.



Knowingly I did not reply to the silly comment about time measurement in Hinduism; which is the subject matter of my next article. For Muslim historians, ignorance is bliss.

]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Vijay http://vspaliwalkt.instablogs.com http://vspaliwalkt.instablogs.com Vijay On the first day of the Hajj, the 8th day of the 12th month, Dhu al-Hijjah, the pilgrims perform their first Tawaf, which involves all of the pilgrims entering The Sacred Mosque (Masjid Al Haram) and walking seven times counter-clockwise around the Kaaba, kissing the Black Stone (Hajr Al Aswad) on each circuit. If kissing is not possible due to the crowds, they may simply align themselves with the stone and point to it. Each complete circuit constitutes a “Shout” with 7 circuits constituting a complete tawaf. The place where pilgrims walk is known as “Mutaaf”. Only the first three Shouts are compulsory, but invariably almost all perform it seven times. Please remember that going around the image of the Lord (Parikrama) is an old Hindu custom which is still in vogue in all temples.

]]> Sun, 05 Oct 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam Thanks for the visit and the comments. Please go through my article on Tajmahal.

]]> Sun, 05 Oct 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Asad Rabbani http://ansariasad.instablogs.com http://ansariasad.instablogs.com Asad Rabbani
Everyone knows that the truth is Islam, and half hindus also dont believe in Ram, many of their books says that Ramayana is a fantasy and not the truth. I dont understand why ramesh doing so.]]> I must say that ramesh balam dont know anything about the history and he just manipulate it and makes his own stupid thoughts on the articles.



Everyone knows that the truth is Islam, and half hindus also dont believe in Ram, many of their books says that Ramayana is a fantasy and not the truth. I dont understand why ramesh doing so.

]]> Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam
To prove that my thoughts are stupid, you will have to give more intelligent arguments than calling names.

There is no truth for ultimate peace and salvation in Islam. Islamic Republic of Pakistan is in ruins. Those who migrated to it on partition are still Mohajirs. There are continous fights in Shia and Sunnis. Bohri, Ahmedia and other sectsm are not recognised as Muslims at all. Millions of Muslims visit peer, faqir, dargahs and seek materialistic pleasure; is it because their Allah can’t give it to them? Witch-craft is common practice in Muslims. There is so much confusion and backwardness in Islam that any Maulvi issues a fatwa for any damn thing.

Hinduism does not ask any one to believe in Lord Ram or lord Krishna or any other god. Who said, you have to believe in them to be a Hindu?

Which scripture says that Ramayan is a fantasy? Even if it is, does it matter to a Hindu? Hindus faith is not based on the theory of one prophet, one book, one religion.

I am doing it because truth must be told, how-so-ever unpalatable it might be.]]> I agree that I don’t know your version of your history.



To prove that my thoughts are stupid, you will have to give more intelligent arguments than calling names.



There is no truth for ultimate peace and salvation in Islam. Islamic Republic of Pakistan is in ruins. Those who migrated to it on partition are still Mohajirs. There are continous fights in Shia and Sunnis. Bohri, Ahmedia and other sectsm are not recognised as Muslims at all. Millions of Muslims visit peer, faqir, dargahs and seek materialistic pleasure; is it because their Allah can’t give it to them? Witch-craft is common practice in Muslims. There is so much confusion and backwardness in Islam that any Maulvi issues a fatwa for any damn thing.



Hinduism does not ask any one to believe in Lord Ram or lord Krishna or any other god. Who said, you have to believe in them to be a Hindu?



Which scripture says that Ramayan is a fantasy? Even if it is, does it matter to a Hindu? Hindus faith is not based on the theory of one prophet, one book, one religion.



I am doing it because truth must be told, how-so-ever unpalatable it might be.

]]> Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Rickie http://richie.instablogs.com http://richie.instablogs.com Rickie Brother Asad you dont know the truth about your own religion. In islam there is a term called ”taqqiya” which mean if a muslim needs to hide the truth, bend the truth, or lie for the glorification or betterment of islam it is allowed.

You wanan talk about RamJi firstly read this about muhammad and what kind of mental state he was in.


Book 008, Number 3415:
Muhammad says to a man; ”if one of your wife sucks on your other wifes breasts a few times the two wifes are still lawful to you”
Umm al-Fadl reported: A bedouin came to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) when he was in my house and said: Allah’s Apostle, I have had a wife and I married another besides her, and my first wife claimed that she had suckled once or twice my newly married wife, thereupon Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: One suckling or two do not make the (marriage) unlawful.



Aisha(youngest of muhammads wives) reports that muhammad asked a woman to let a grown man(salim) with beard on his face to suck on her breast so that, that man in question then becomes a foster son; and because of that the the woman doesn’t have to entirely cover up in front of that man.

Book 008, Number 3424:
’ A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail came to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be eupon him) and said: Messengerof Allah, I see on the face of Abu Hudhaifa (signs of disgust) on entering of Salim (who is an ally) into (our house), whereupon Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him. She said: How can I suckle him as he is a grown-up man? Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) smiled and said: I already know that he is a young man ’Amr has made this addition in his narration that he participated in the Battle of Badr and in the narration of Ibn ’Umar (the words are): Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) laughed.



Please before you point fingers try and understand if Muhammad was in his right mind when he got these bipolar/ schizophrenic dillusions.


Here muhammad tells his companions since they have conqured a city, now his men can have sex with any of the conqured women even if they have husbands; because now these women are possessed by their right hand.
Book 008, Number 3432:

Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah’s Messenger (may peace te upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:” And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)” (i. e. they were lawful for them when their ’Idda period came to an end).]]> Yeah asad,

Brother Asad you dont know the truth about your own religion. In islam there is a term called ”taqqiya” which mean if a muslim needs to hide the truth, bend the truth, or lie for the glorification or betterment of islam it is allowed.



You wanan talk about RamJi firstly read this about muhammad and what kind of mental state he was in.





Book 008, Number 3415:

Muhammad says to a man; ”if one of your wife sucks on your other wifes breasts a few times the two wifes are still lawful to you”

Umm al-Fadl reported: A bedouin came to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) when he was in my house and said: Allah’s Apostle, I have had a wife and I married another besides her, and my first wife claimed that she had suckled once or twice my newly married wife, thereupon Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: One suckling or two do not make the (marriage) unlawful.







Aisha(youngest of muhammads wives) reports that muhammad asked a woman to let a grown man(salim) with beard on his face to suck on her breast so that, that man in question then becomes a foster son; and because of that the the woman doesn’t have to entirely cover up in front of that man.



Book 008, Number 3424:

’ A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail came to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be eupon him) and said: Messengerof Allah, I see on the face of Abu Hudhaifa (signs of disgust) on entering of Salim (who is an ally) into (our house), whereupon Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him. She said: How can I suckle him as he is a grown-up man? Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) smiled and said: I already know that he is a young man ’Amr has made this addition in his narration that he participated in the Battle of Badr and in the narration of Ibn ’Umar (the words are): Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) laughed.







Please before you point fingers try and understand if Muhammad was in his right mind when he got these bipolar/ schizophrenic dillusions.





Here muhammad tells his companions since they have conqured a city, now his men can have sex with any of the conqured women even if they have husbands; because now these women are possessed by their right hand.

Book 008, Number 3432:



Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah’s Messenger (may peace te upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:” And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)” (i. e. they were lawful for them when their ’Idda period came to an end).

]]> Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Vijay http://vspaliwalkt.instablogs.com http://vspaliwalkt.instablogs.com Vijay Rameshji,during Dussera festival here in Kota,there is a tradition since centuries to throw stones on Ravana,just like they are throwing stones at the pillar of ’Shaitan’ in Makka.

]]> Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Ramesh Balam http://balam.instablogs.com http://balam.instablogs.com Ramesh Balam Thanks for your comments.

]]> Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Rickie http://richie.instablogs.com http://richie.instablogs.com Rickie Brother Asad you dont know the truth about your own religion. In islam there is a term called ”taqqiya” which mean if a muslim needs to hide the truth, bend the truth, or lie for the glorification or betterment of islam it is allowed.

You wanan talk about RamJi firstly read this about muhammad and what kind of mental state he was in.


Book 008, Number 3415:
Muhammad says to a man; ”if one of your wife sucks on your other wifes breasts a few times the two wifes are still lawful to you”
Umm al-Fadl reported: A bedouin came to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) when he was in my house and said: Allah’s Apostle, I have had a wife and I married another besides her, and my first wife claimed that she had suckled once or twice my newly married wife, thereupon Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: One suckling or two do not make the (marriage) unlawful.



Aisha(youngest of muhammads wives) reports that muhammad asked a woman to let a grown man(salim) with beard on his face to suck on her breast so that, that man in question then becomes a foster son; and because of that the the woman doesn’t have to entirely cover up in front of that man.

Book 008, Number 3424:
’ A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail came to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be eupon him) and said: Messengerof Allah, I see on the face of Abu Hudhaifa (signs of disgust) on entering of Salim (who is an ally) into (our house), whereupon Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him. She said: How can I suckle him as he is a grown-up man? Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) smiled and said: I already know that he is a young man ’Amr has made this addition in his narration that he participated in the Battle of Badr and in the narration of Ibn ’Umar (the words are): Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) laughed.



Please before you point fingers try and understand if Muhammad was in his right mind when he got these bipolar/ schizophrenic dillusions.


Here muhammad tells his companions since they have conqured a city, now his men can have sex with any of the conqured women even if they have husbands; because now these women are possessed by their right hand.
Book 008, Number 3432:

Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah’s Messenger (may peace te upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:” And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)” (i. e. they were lawful for them when their ’Idda period came to an end).]]> Yeah asad,

Brother Asad you dont know the truth about your own religion. In islam there is a term called ”taqqiya” which mean if a muslim needs to hide the truth, bend the truth, or lie for the glorification or betterment of islam it is allowed.



You wanan talk about RamJi firstly read this about muhammad and what kind of mental state he was in.





Book 008, Number 3415:

Muhammad says to a man; ”if one of your wife sucks on your other wifes breasts a few times the two wifes are still lawful to you”

Umm al-Fadl reported: A bedouin came to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) when he was in my house and said: Allah’s Apostle, I have had a wife and I married another besides her, and my first wife claimed that she had suckled once or twice my newly married wife, thereupon Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: One suckling or two do not make the (marriage) unlawful.







Aisha(youngest of muhammads wives) reports that muhammad asked a woman to let a grown man(salim) with beard on his face to suck on her breast so that, that man in question then becomes a foster son; and because of that the the woman doesn’t have to entirely cover up in front of that man.



Book 008, Number 3424:

’ A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail came to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be eupon him) and said: Messengerof Allah, I see on the face of Abu Hudhaifa (signs of disgust) on entering of Salim (who is an ally) into (our house), whereupon Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him. She said: How can I suckle him as he is a grown-up man? Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) smiled and said: I already know that he is a young man ’Amr has made this addition in his narration that he participated in the Battle of Badr and in the narration of Ibn ’Umar (the words are): Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) laughed.







Please before you point fingers try and understand if Muhammad was in his right mind when he got these bipolar/ schizophrenic dillusions.





Here muhammad tells his companions since they have conqured a city, now his men can have sex with any of the conqured women even if they have husbands; because now these women are possessed by their right hand.

Book 008, Number 3432:



Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah’s Messenger (may peace te upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:” And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)” (i. e. they were lawful for them when their ’Idda period came to an end).

]]> Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:00:00 +0000 Vijay http://vspaliwalkt.instablogs.com http://vspaliwalkt.instablogs.com Vijay On the first day of the Hajj, the 8th day of the 12th month, Dhu al-Hijjah, the pilgrims perform their first Tawaf, which involves all of the pilgrims entering The Sacred Mosque (Masjid Al Haram) and walking seven times counter-clockwise around the Kaaba, kissing the Black Stone (Hajr Al Aswad) on each circuit. If kissing is not possible due to the crowds, they may simply align themselves with the stone and point to it. Each complete circuit constitutes a “Shout” with 7 circuits constituting a complete tawaf. The place where pilgrims walk is known as “Mutaaf”. Only the first three Shouts are compulsory, but invariably almost all perform it seven times. Please remember that going around the image of the Lord (Parikrama) is an old Hindu custom which is still in vogue in all temples.

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